hsus on another campaign to end hound hunting
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hsus on another campaign to end hound hunting
http://www.humanesociety.org/issues/hound_hunting/
The Humane Society of the United States has taken clips from my DVDs and others hoping to gain funds to end hound hunting. I have already spoken to one lawyer who says the "Freedom or Fair Use Act" allows people or groups to take small clips of film from a video to make a point or political statement and take an opposing view on an issue before the public. WOW! I guess what that means is if any of us copy a video (from beginning to end) for a profit then we have broken the law, but if a non-profit group does it for a political cause like ending hound hunting then it's OK! And it doesn't seem to matter that they attached a donation flag to that video and acquire thousands or millions of dollars to assist them in their "just" cause.......
Well, all I can say is I'll be damn! I might also say it's about time we end our inside fighting and talk about ways to protect our sport. I would recommend that those of us with the energy to attack others should channel it into a greater cause. I do plan on speaking with another attorney for a second or third option, but realize that HSUS has the high ground in this fight. And we better get our act together and devote our energy and efforts in actions that better our position rather than tearing each other down.
I thought that I was beyond the fight and winding my hunting career to an end, but the fact that HSUS has used my film and slapped hound hunters around has lite a fire in me that had gone out. As most of you know, I have kept most all of my dogs and therefore have taken offense to the comments made about the mistreatment of the ways we us and feel about our hounds. I also realize that many of you also look at your own hounds as family, and would take their loss nearly as badly as the loss of a child.
I don't propose to have the answers as to what we need to do to defend our sport or change attitudes by some of the public. However, we need to get our message out their and be in the fight to educate people on our sport. People have been talking about donations, well, we better all find a group who has our best interest at heart and get behind them........
ike
The Humane Society of the United States has taken clips from my DVDs and others hoping to gain funds to end hound hunting. I have already spoken to one lawyer who says the "Freedom or Fair Use Act" allows people or groups to take small clips of film from a video to make a point or political statement and take an opposing view on an issue before the public. WOW! I guess what that means is if any of us copy a video (from beginning to end) for a profit then we have broken the law, but if a non-profit group does it for a political cause like ending hound hunting then it's OK! And it doesn't seem to matter that they attached a donation flag to that video and acquire thousands or millions of dollars to assist them in their "just" cause.......
Well, all I can say is I'll be damn! I might also say it's about time we end our inside fighting and talk about ways to protect our sport. I would recommend that those of us with the energy to attack others should channel it into a greater cause. I do plan on speaking with another attorney for a second or third option, but realize that HSUS has the high ground in this fight. And we better get our act together and devote our energy and efforts in actions that better our position rather than tearing each other down.
I thought that I was beyond the fight and winding my hunting career to an end, but the fact that HSUS has used my film and slapped hound hunters around has lite a fire in me that had gone out. As most of you know, I have kept most all of my dogs and therefore have taken offense to the comments made about the mistreatment of the ways we us and feel about our hounds. I also realize that many of you also look at your own hounds as family, and would take their loss nearly as badly as the loss of a child.
I don't propose to have the answers as to what we need to do to defend our sport or change attitudes by some of the public. However, we need to get our message out their and be in the fight to educate people on our sport. People have been talking about donations, well, we better all find a group who has our best interest at heart and get behind them........
ike
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Re: hsus on another campaigne to end hound hunting
the hsus web site makes me want to vomit. people are so stupid it gives me a headache.
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Re: hsus on another campaign to end hound hunting
If you have myspace look up Megan Sewell, the lady on the film, pretty sure she towards the top of the list with a picture of a bear cub on her display pic. Try to add her as a friend and see what she has to say about stealing your clips Ike. Also she is on Facebook for anyone else that wants to try to add her as a friend.
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Re: hsus on another campaign to end hound hunting
I did a search on Facebooks and found 47 people but no cubs or photos to identify her, any more ideas? What did I do wrong? But you know what they say, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. 
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Re: hsus on another campaign to end hound hunting
I found her on face book and sent her a message. I don't know if I am out of line but being a houndsman I feel that she is targeting me too. I hope she response back, this is the same attack that they pulled on horse owners, and all they will do is hurt the good guys. the ones that do abuse the sport and hounds are going to do it regardless. I asked her to take a look at it from the other side of her argument. She needs to talk to some of you guys that have been doing it for 10,20 years or even longer and see what some one is like that reaspects hounds and wild life.
Re: hsus on another campaign to end hound hunting
That LYING F$%^ING C$&T. Unbelievable.
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Re: hsus on another campaign to end hound hunting
Well she sent me a message back saying stop harrassing me. So I guess she has nothing really to say.
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On her facebook it only shows a picture of a sunset or something and in her description thing I think it has the humane society. On her myspace it has a picture of a bear cub on her display pic.
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Re: hsus on another campaign to end hound hunting
hmmmm Let's see what she says to a woman...... I will contact her on myspace.
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Re: hsus on another campaign to end hound hunting
sent this to her:
Watched your video on hound hunting on the hsus page. I would like to comment to you on a few of your points. I am a hound hunter, and i will have you know that my dogs are part of my family, they are house broke and fed better than myself, i am insulted that you place all participants in a sport under the same category. Your comment on the laziness of hunters just sitting in the truck waiting for the dogs to do the work, well, do you really think that you could personally keep up step for step with a dog traveling 6-10 mph over steep rough terrain??? if you feel we are a lazy group, then I extend a personal invitation for you to come see what it is really about instead of general statements that do not apply to the majority involved. Unfortunately, but true to form, your so called facts are very misconstrued. 40 dogs is rediculously absurd, and a very great exception, not even close to the rule. The photos of emaciated dogs on your video were not even all hounds, and isn't the reality that no matter what the situation of a dog, be it pet or working, that there is unfotunate mistreatment? Not every person in the world is a responsible pet owner, and no, houndsmen do not make up a large part of the irresponsible, quite the opposite. You are uneducated and ignorant to the realities, but you have an agenda and no real education on both sides of the issue. I would hope that you are an intelligent enough person to do your homework with an open mind and see that reality is a far cry from what you are portaying it to be, but I doubt that will happen.
Watched your video on hound hunting on the hsus page. I would like to comment to you on a few of your points. I am a hound hunter, and i will have you know that my dogs are part of my family, they are house broke and fed better than myself, i am insulted that you place all participants in a sport under the same category. Your comment on the laziness of hunters just sitting in the truck waiting for the dogs to do the work, well, do you really think that you could personally keep up step for step with a dog traveling 6-10 mph over steep rough terrain??? if you feel we are a lazy group, then I extend a personal invitation for you to come see what it is really about instead of general statements that do not apply to the majority involved. Unfortunately, but true to form, your so called facts are very misconstrued. 40 dogs is rediculously absurd, and a very great exception, not even close to the rule. The photos of emaciated dogs on your video were not even all hounds, and isn't the reality that no matter what the situation of a dog, be it pet or working, that there is unfotunate mistreatment? Not every person in the world is a responsible pet owner, and no, houndsmen do not make up a large part of the irresponsible, quite the opposite. You are uneducated and ignorant to the realities, but you have an agenda and no real education on both sides of the issue. I would hope that you are an intelligent enough person to do your homework with an open mind and see that reality is a far cry from what you are portaying it to be, but I doubt that will happen.
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Re: hsus on another campaign to end hound hunting
Wow! I'm both surprised and impressed Larry....and a great response to her comments by you.
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link didnt work larry
Re: hsus on another campaign to end hound hunting
Gee, thanks Ike? i can come through in the clinchIke wrote:Wow! I'm both surprised and impressed Larry....and a great response to her comments by you.
ike
