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Re: One World Gov't. in our life time...New World Order (Article

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:22 pm
by LIGHTNING RIDGE
Guy's if you want to learn more about what is going on and what has been going on for over 80 years you might want to look at some of this material.

Zeitgeist the movie. (can be found on you tube)
End Game (Alex Jones Movie)
North American Union (Internet search, will bring some light to the article above)
The Amero Currency ( New currency system publicly traded on wall street)
Bilderberg Group ( The people deciding what goes on in the world)
NATO Super Highway (Being built right under our nose)

This is all good information but like all info you must sort through it and take out of it only what you want.

Re: One World Gov't. in our life time...New World Order (Article

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:56 pm
by Hagerman
The one world Government is just one of many things that are foretold in the bible.
Of everything that must be completed before the return of Christ, only one thing is left.
The rebuilding of the temple.
They already have the blueprints, complete with the electrical wiring detail.
All ceremonial implements to be used have been recreated in pain staking detail.
Personnel in the required professions for the temple have/are being trained.
So....whats left?
More prophecy has been completed in our life time than at any other time in history, combined.
So live accordingly.

Re: One World Gov't. in our life time...New World Order (Article

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:14 pm
by liontracker
But A Temple?

I read in the bible, "thow shalt not build up a Temple in my name" ?

Re: One World Gov't. in our life time...New World Order (Article

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:30 pm
by BEAR HUNTER
I believe you are referring to when David wanted to build a temple for God. God told him he was not allowed to build the temple because he was a warrior and had to much blood on his hands. David was allowed to plan and design the temple but was not allowed to build it. His son Solomon built it.
The temple has been destroyed twice before. Scripture says that it will be rebuilt for a third time and the anti-christ will defile it. Plans have been made for the temple to be rebuilt. Right now however there is a fight between Christians and Muslims because the Muslims have control of the temple site. A Mosque sits on the site.
Some people believe we are living in the last days. I am a Christian and believe that we are. Regardless of your personal beliefs on the end times, death may come at any moment from a billion differant ways. If your heart is not right with god when you die my belief is your hosed. Either way to my way of thinking its to big of a risk to take. If the bible is true and I believe it is hell is a horrible place. All it takes is a simple prayer and the willingness to believe in God. He will do the rest.

Re: One World Gov't. in our life time...New World Order (Article

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:23 pm
by Nolte
liontracker wrote:Anyway, from my perspective, the voting system is flawed, our Gov't. is out of control and we are on the brink of a serious change. As I look back on the past, it is obvious that ever since the Vietnam War and Hanoi Jane's treasonous "freedom of speach", that the crystal clear "American Patriotism" has been severly eroded away. This new generation will only make it worse, because of the values they were raised with. Their values were taught to them, not by their parents, but by the television, the internet and violent video games. This past election was a good example. As a whole, our American morals and ethics have been comprimised and transformed.


Tim,
I don't disagree that there are some serious short-comings happening in America, but let's not pretend that just recently we have lost our patriotism. The Hippie Generation would now be at the age of 55 to 70, and most of the younger voting demographic would have been raised by parents who grew up in this generation. Also, I've heard the TV and Violent Video game argument and if you ask me it's completely bunk. It's just a convenient excuse. There are many people who are out of touch with reality regardless of if they play an Xbox or tune in to MTV 20 hours a day.

liontracker wrote:As I look around me and take a mental poll on the" LEGAL" US citizens between the ages of 16-25, I shudder to think of the amount of collective Patriotism amoung them. I do not think there is enough at this point to get the job done.


What do you suppose the "collective Patriotism" is among the people aget 18-25 who have been deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Or their families and close friends. The total deployment for Vietnam was 8.7 million and ended in 1973. The youngest Vietnam vet would be 55 years old. In the current Middle East Deployement, there have been roughly 3.3 million deployments thus far. Which is by far the largest deployement since, with the average age of soldiers at around 27 or so.

liontracker wrote:He said "that America wil be destroyed from within by the television". He was a profit. Just look at the 3 generations of anti-hunters that the TV and Walt Disney spawned. Apply that process to our political system and look where we are today.


I don't think at all he was a prophet. How has the USSR fared since that time? Wouldn't a prophet have been able to recognize that outcome a little better. The declining trend has much less to do with TV and Disney as it does the almighty dollar and access. Our open hunting lands have been declining and will keep doing so. It's the way it is. And when people own something, they have the right to do with it as they see fit. I can't argue with that principal although it pains me to see it in some cases with areas I've hunted. There are just more entertainment choices for people and people are choosing them over marginal hunting. You aren't losing the hard-core hunters who have it in there blood, but part-time guys who would rather do something else. Besides, there might be less hunters but there sure aren't less hound guys in WI.

Re: One World Gov't. in our life time...New World Order (Article

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:03 pm
by BEAR HUNTER
All you have to do is talk to some youngsters 17-25. You will find that the majorty of them have no clue as to whats going on in the world. They have no clue as to American Politics. Yet if you ask them they will spew all sorts of Liberal garbage. Where is that all coming from. I have wondered about it for a long time. I think its a mixture of the easy life most Americans have and the indoctrination that is going on in our schools.

Re: One World Gov't. in our life time...New World Order (Article

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:14 pm
by liontracker
For me it has all become too convoluted and complex.

I personally would rather follow the hounds in some remote roadless area or wilderness.
Ya never know, maybe I will find old Moses himself on top of one of those mountains!LOL

Re: One World Gov't. in our life time...New World Order (Article

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:26 pm
by Nolte
Tim,

I completly agree with you. Many times I don't even want to watch the news or read a paper to find out what's recently went wrong in the world.

Bear Hunter, I'm sure that when you were 17-25 years old your main priorities were politics and world current events. No way it would have been the next party you were going to or the girl that was going to be there.

Political views usually start to change once you see the money being pulled out of your paycheck and where it's going.

Re: One World Gov't. in our life time...New World Order (Article

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:07 pm
by Hagerman
Bear Hunter,
No, ancient biblical history has been kind of a hobby of mine for a while now, not just the escatology part either.
The last temple is to be rebuilt, some say/think that will usher in the Messiah, others say that the false messiah (antichrist) is the one that will build it.
Never the less, they are training people right now in Israel to perform all the funtions required for operating the temple and making all the implements for it.
Yes, they have drawn plans for it also.
This is easy to research and is no secret.
There are so many angles and beliefs regarding this and Christ in no way is dependant on us for anything so...
Have fun, run your dogs, hug your kids.
Please don't take my word for this, check it out and no, I am not preaching the last times.

Re: One World Gov't. in our life time...New World Order (Article

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:32 pm
by BEAR HUNTER
Hagerman keep talking. I enjoy reading your post. I am still learning everyday. Explain more about the temple I want to know more about it. If its easier PM me and I will send you my email.

Nolte I dont know what the answer is with young people. My youth wasn't typical. I was born into a horse trading family so found out the value of a dollar real quick. Was on my own at 16 and kind of mentored by an old Pentecostal family who were Constitutionalist. My thoughts were pretty much shaped by them. I am teaching my kids those same values.
Kind of interesting my older brother was on his own at 16. He went a differant way. Today he doesnt watch the news, wont vote, and knows nothing of politcs.

Re: One World Gov't. in our life time...New World Order (Article

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:57 pm
by Liz ODell

Re: One World Gov't. in our life time...New World Order (Article

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:44 am
by pegleg
Tim i think we have a great government diagram. unfortunately you have to strip away years and years of amendments and new laws that aim to protect and line the pockets of the "upper" ruling class. people are selfish and greedy as a rule. the only time they aren't is when they have something to believe in or fight for. that can be anything they hold dear and in common with others. Americans in general are to busy protecting what they have now to worry about making things better for the future, they often talk of the future but never actually move to shore up it's foundation. anything worthwhile takes work and effort. current generations look down on real work and effort as menial and demeaning in the largest population centers in the US. I believe we as a people don't share similar enough ideals from one region or demographic to another to be "one nation under god. the obvious argument to that is all the immigrants had differing ideals. true but THEY wanted a better life for themselves and families a very strong motivator.
I think we are headed in a negative direction towards failure of the America we know. I can't say it is controlled or just a unfortunate flow that way. I can point to a wide range of growing failures that are all converging. the solution of course is people working to fix and redirect them. a very strong period of election performance along with a effort to educate people in what needs to be done would eventually work and be a slow but preferable path. force is fast and very effective but a small mistake here is harder to rectify then in a voting booth. a large misdirection would be horrible. the point is sooner or later change will be required and the destination will become more important then the method.

Re: One World Gov't. in our life time...New World Order (Article

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:24 am
by guy54
Thought maybe some of you might find this interesting. Edward Gibbon an English historian and member of parliament wrote this in 1787 about the decline and fall of the Roman Empire.
1. The rapid increase of divorce; the undermining of dignity and sanctity of the home, which is the basis of human society.
2.Higher and higher taxes and the spending of public money for free bread and circuses for the populace.
3.The mad craze for pleasure; sports becoming every year more exciting and more brutal.
4.The building of gigantic armaments when the real enemy was within; the decadence of the people.
5.The decay of religion-faith fading into mere form-losing touch with life and becoming impotent to guide the people.

Sound familiar? This could very easily be written about our nation today. I believe Ronald Reagan said, "when we stop being one nation under God we will be one nation gone under".
According to polls somewhere around 80% of Americans claim to be Christian. Yet when you quiz some of them they will say they are Christian because this is a Christian nation and since they were born here that makes them Christian. Others will say that since their parents or grandparents were Christian they guess they are too. Some will say they attend church which makes them a Christian. If attending church alone will make you a Christian then you should be able to set in the garage and turn into a car. I think many people have a misunderstanding of what a Christian is: Being a Christian is a personal and individual thing. It is beleiving in Christ as the son of God and that our salvation is through His work on the cross and not ours. We are saved by grace through faith. It is a relationship not a religion. I am afraid that if another poll was taken using this definition of a Christian that the percentages would change.
I am a Christian because "I" chose to be. Not because of where I live or because my family was Christian (although they did have a lot of influence).
Now having said that, I for one will not "go quietly into that dark night". God never said that we were to be doormats for nonbelievers to walk on. In English class "Christian would probably be considered a "noun" or an object, when in actuallity it is a verb or an "action". We need to study II Chrinicles 7:14 as a nation and then put it into action. "Humble ourselves", "pray" and "seek" are all action words.
We also need to study history and learn from it. What happened to the Roman Empire is happening to us and we are too blind to see it. We can't see the forest through the trees. I am not a dooms day kind of person, but if we don't wake up we are going to lose the America we once knew with its liberties and freedoms. And when that day comes we have no one to blame but ourselves.