dryground lion hunting

[Ike]

Buddy made one for me and named it the "Cage", a place where a person doesn't have to take comments like "Shut Up" without giving that person the proper response. Anybody is welcome to come visit but know you'll most likely get back what you give..........

[doug]

I guess he did say that.

[lsorenso]

He would start his own, but he would be the only one typing and responding to himself. And that wouldn't be any fun would it, of course he does a fine job making himself look stupid.

[Ike]

What a bunch of jeaolus cry babies..... And what rock did you crawl out from under anyway isorenso?

[cecil j.]

First things first, this post is not directed to or at anyone. This is simply food for thought about the ability of a dog to pick up on scent left on the ground.

I do not proclaim to be an expect in anything in life, especially not hound hunt as anyone and everyone has probably read my posts. The majority of them are asking for help or advice on hound hunting. I have went a long hound hunting with my fiance's father for two years now and next year will be my first time doing it alone. With that said i am by no means saying i know much of anything about hound hunting.
I also do not consider myself to be an expect when it comes to the Pacific North West salmon species. But i will go so far as to say i know my fair share. As of June 13th 2008. I will be graduating with an Assiocates of Science Degree in Fisheries Technology.
A little about salmon. A salmon is hatched out of a egg that is laid by its mother in a stream that can be located as close to a mile from the ocean or as far over a thousand river miles from the ocean. Such as the Redfish Lake stock of Sockeye Salmon, which is in Idaho. Depending on the Salmon species, some stay in they're natal stream for a couple days to over a year. These amazing fish are able to flow river current to the ocean, spent anywhere from two years to five years (depending on species). Then an "light switches on" in they're head that tells them to swin back to the mouth of the Columbia River from hundres of miles out in the ocean. They are able to find the Columbia and countinue up river for miles and many cases they're natal stream is a tributary of a tributary to the Columbia River. The Redfish Lake stock of Sockeye for example. Come from the ocean, go up the Columbia, then up the Snake river and cont. up many small rivers until they reach Redfish Lake. Many scientist have done many studies on how this is possible. These fish are able to find they're natal streams by SMELL. There are other factors that help them find these streams like magnetic pull and objective orientation, such as land marks and such. If you take into consideration the mass amounts of water that is following into the ocean from thousands of different water sources, it is absolutly amazing they can follow the smallest microscopic trace of scent that they're natal stream is putting into the flow of the Columbia. Other factors makes it ever more amazing such as floads, dams, human waste, drugs, dioxians, pcb's and hundreds or other things being dumped into the Columbia. Now tell me how, with all of these factors it is possible for these fish to do that.

Now take all that into consideration and think about how hard it would be for a hound to pick up on trace of scent left by a lion or bobcat a day or to ago. In the case of the hound in the woods. There are a very small amount of dilution to an aminals scent. Some would be coyote, deer or elk scent in the air. But how is that anything compared to the salmon. In some cases of dry ground hunting and dogs striking off of the box. I personally see it possible, very possible. You never know if that lion has a kill a few hundred yards off of the road. In that case the lion would have left mass amounts of scent in the air and in the ground in that exact spot the kill lies but possibly not on the ground leading up to the kill. A hound could smell a small trace of that amount of scent left over by feeding. Another case could be as simple as a lion walked across the road a day or two ago on dry ground. The scent on the road could not be trackable but what if that lion "went to the bathroom" not to far from the road. This would also leave scent in the air for days that the hound is very capable of smelling. Considering cats cover they droppings, many hounds and people would not pick up on the fact that the ground has been distrubed but that is where the scent is coming from. I dont know for sure since i am not anywhere near an expect on hounds but it seems to me that most hounds would not stop on that spot of distrubed ground where the scent is orginating from but continue on searching for that small trace of scent and not be able to find anything.

cecil j
Ya know a top rigg dog with a cold nose and a dryground hound can be good at either and or lessor at one varriation than is shoen heaver on the other .Confused yet ?!
considerind both hounds will and do finish-out successfully alot on lion they each get on/ were lies the differance? beardogs and lion dogs alike both learn too either track straddle or too use the noggens and out samart the game and meet the game down the path somes weres-else cause they got it figured-out too were he is headed.They have a nose power yes/but the game sence power in their heads kicks-in and they just don`t stand on ther heads they drift-out or ahead an hit it better, or run silent till they get in on him fresher and equal out there probilitys of this cat being caught !
The other type dog (the track straddler) is singleminded and just has a lesser arsonal mentally too put into play too work for him. That don`t make him a lesser dog maybe (depending your school of thinking) but it makes for a big contrast of what hapenes on your hunt ! In my humble thinkings. Now then, sometimes a singular extra-extra cold nosed track and trail is BORN and he works and trails up game that most all other dogs don`t nor yet haven`t devoluped the threshold too bother with/ hell they might see thetrack too and wiffof it and have graded it too old. Then ya got a houind owner by God that denounces this strangers dog as being mouthy and darnd wout gosten in the wind ! That guy just hasentnever come acrost an old time honest ta goodness trail an track game hound/ most died out in lines by 1960`s/ but now & then youll find a hunter who got his hands on one and is makeing a lne from that hound/ an it passes-on .
Id say learn as much as ya can grow too incorpurate into your own hunting and make yourself go up and on/not just your line of dog too go up and on !(in my humble openion anyways)

jack