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Hound trained for to many animals

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I am new to hounds, can I train my walker pup to run bob cats, lions and coon. Or will that stack the odds agains me on making a solid lion hound. And how should I introduce her to all of them? should I get her solid hunting one thing, then go with the next. or work one scent one day then work one scent on another day then the third scent another day?
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i have asked that to and a I get alot of. It would suck to be cold trailin a bob cat in a hole then your dogs tree a coon down in the middle of a hell hole. But heck most every one around here hunts bob cats, Not many coon hunters but. I had a doog that treed coon and oppossum and well tryed to catc fox was not fast enough and he been on a few bobs never had him pull off one to another,
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If you really want a lion hound and that is what you hunt then stay with lions. That is not to say that you can't have a top lion hound that also runs coon, cat, and even bear. My best ever ran all of them but if you are in country where you may encounter all of the species while out hunting you will spend a lot of time trailing somthing you do not want.

Most lion areas have bobs and most guys don't care if they run them. But outfitters on bare ground can't have their dogs pissing around with a coon or a bobcat when they are relying on them to strike a lion track on the dirt where the track can't usually be seen.

Here is a little known fact: Many dry ground hunters spend a ton of time cold trailing and not seeing tracks and it gets routine and they think their luck is really bad. Usually if they get off and spend some time looking they will find their dogs are trailing gray fox more than lions. Happens all the time and it acts a lot like a lion cold trail.


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My opinion. The problem that I've experienced with using dogs for multiple species(especially for a nubie) is not necessarily that they are switching tracks they are on to chase something else you want, but them being much harder to break off of bad game(deer, coyotes, etc.). Too much for them to understand and much more hard breaking for you to deal with. I have run bear, coon, cat, lion, fox with the same dogs my whole life and let me tell you, breaking is always the biggest challenge. (good)Dogs are made one at a time, on one species at a time.
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Colbalt,
I like the statement that good dogs are made one at a time, one species at a time.
I only run foxes with my hounds, and I keep a pack and normally start several a year so the one at a time thing is a little off for my style of hunting.

But i have always taught and have always thought you should do 1 thing and do it right.

i devote every minute I am on the ground hunting to helping make my pack of foxdogs the best pack of fox dogs I can get. they arent the best but at the moment they are the best I got.

I know alot of people want to hunt alot of animals with the same hounds, SAY LIFE AND SEASONS ARE TOO SHORT, just isnt my cup of tea,
If your gonna do something, you dang sure better do it right, and in my mind having the same dog hunting 3-4-5 species of game aint doing it right. One Pack (dog) One Goal
Just my opinion

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Re: Hound trained for to many animals

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thanks guys that helps me out alot. have been working my walker on live coons and then lion drags. I hope we get some snow this week end so I can see what she will do on a lion track. I hear everyone saying to work her on house cats, do you work them the same way as you do a live coon?
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most of the guys i know there dogs are trained for all three because if you turn out on a lion track thats what there most likely to follow(that or deer Ha Ha Ha)
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