Dual pupose cat dogs?

[waylon]

Do you run other game with your cat dogs? I have been working some young dogs latley trying to get back into running bobcats and have been treeing a bunch of coons, really I am loving it, and might be messing up but man i forgot just how fun coon hunting can be. My dogs are striking coons and doing a super job running and treeing them, so i hate to break them off coons. My oldest dog is 2 and my youngest is just a year old and treeing her own coon since the first night she was hunted. I think there coming alomg so well i dont want to stop there progress

Do ya'll run other game with your dogs and am i messing up?, will I ruin them & do ya think they will quit a cat track later and fall off on a coons, II know a lot of these questions will depend on dogs genetics so to speak. I am also wanting to chase some gray fox with these same hounds cause there thick around my place and have never really ran them.

[Dan Edwards]

My dogs always fall off intended game for deer so I'd say anything is possible. Are you ruining them? I doubt it. Are they ever gonna be real cat dogs? Who knows but if you are having fun, I say keep it up.

[TomJr]

Good answer Dan Edwards. I second that, if your having fun keep it up!

My good cat dog trees both fox and bobcats, so far this year he is ahead on bobcats but I expect foxes treed to pull ahead soon simply because there are so many more foxes. Last year it was over 20 bobcats and 60ish fox. Grey fox and bobcats run very simular so its all good!

If we had coons here I would likly let him chase those too Instead we have couatimundi bleh usless things...

[waylon]

Tom i had to google those creatures, i had never heard of them, kinda look lika mutalated coon or something can or do you ever tree them?

[TomJr]

They do tree but are not worth the trouble, no pelt and not good eating... or maybe they are? Never tried or heard of anyone eating them lol.

Here is a link from this site with more info on them

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=11795

[Doogie]

dont know if you can or not, but theres a guy on taxidermy.net looking for a couati to mount

[waylon]

nasty little suckers for there size, maybe you should get you a pack of petterdales just for them, and if you eat one and there good let me know. If the economy gets much worse i may drive over to your country and stock up on the meat

[pegleg]

I have heard both ways workin most older houndsmen I've talked to say not to let a hound run anything but what your after. meaning if it's not a cat its trash however I take a more liberal view and figure if its what i want them to trail its OK. about the only thing in life i view liberally though. it comes to this hound genetics are becoming more and more fixed as to type of game the offspring prefer to run in the early days the hounds where just beginning to tree with regularity and most came from deer or fox trailing ancestors with a few hog trailers etc. but no coon or cat hound genetics so if they trained a cat hound they couldn't risk his deer/fox trailing genetics to become fired up and develop a preference for trailing off game. Hard to be a drug addict if you never try drugs. If a hound is going to show his very best potential it will only be on the game he prefers.

[Dan Edwards]

I do know this much though. If you are huntin a pack of hounds and they go to trashin, it will make you want to be more close minded in a hurry. I mean a running dog pack of 8 or 10 hounds. Nothin will piss you off more than a few trashy sumbitches in the mix.

[Dads dogboy]

Waylon,

This will open a can of worms, but I am told that worms are healthy food!

In your country Bobcat/Grey Fox combo Hounds are a good fit. Across the Southeast you will find lots of Grey Fox/Bobcat hunters as the style of running are similar with both Critters.

Farther North Coon/Cat combos with Bear and Lion thrown in are doable combos.

Where you are you have some neighbors who have Coon/Cat Hounds and they tree lots of Cat (well really their Hounds Tree alot but they don't seem to see many Cat).

You have another fellow near you, who you know well, who tried the Coon/Cat type hounds who was not happy with the results. He went to straight Running Type Hounds, only pursuing Bobcat and he is much more successful and very much happier!

Others have their reasons for having multi-use Hounds, however we are of the feeling that the old saying "Jack of all trades...master of none" applies to Bobcat Hounds. There is so much that a Hound has to learn and absorb to be successful on more occasions than not.

Again though, Hounds have to fit the Man who feeds them and fit his style. If Multi-use Hounds is what a Man wants then that is what he need.

You are going to have to quit playing mind games with what you want. As with life, write out a Plan. Then follow the old Plan your work, work your plan pattern to get the tyoe Hounds that fit what you want!

JMT!

CJC

[sdred]

I think like everyone else it's a matter of what trips your trigger. Tuesday we went out and got five coon out of three different den trees. We put down on bob tracks but clear ice and melting snow gave us fits. So we were pretty tickled with the coon they were nice coon and the young dogs got to get into treeing. Now yesterday we went out after a inch or so of new snow went a mile further to the south and put up three bobs in about two hours (really really good day) . So I say hey if the walleye aren't bittin why not catch a few white bass. It makes every tree like christmas you just don't know what your going to get. Might try having a split pack some cat hounds some combos just an idea.

[waylon]

MR. CLAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR HONEST ANSWER, YOU KNOW MY COUNTRY AND WHAT HAS WORKED HERE AND WHAT HAS NOT. i SENT YOU A PM AND MENT EVERY WORD OF IT.

GOD BLESS

[Dan Edwards]

waylon, just think of this. If they start to trashin too bad on ya just let em have at it and you can go drink beer and watch the dancin girls. YEA YEA!

[pegleg]

I'm happy with a good bobcat hound who will catch a Mtn. lion when I want to. I haven't seen it adversely affect a good bobcat dog here.

[waylon]

Well Dan i dont drink but some times hounds make me wish i did as far as the dancing girls, I have a wife who can read minds and she would know i was gulity before i walked in and she would be calling me wanting to know what i was up to so i had better just sit in the truck and cry while they chase every critter there not supposed to. Thanks guys for all the input sounds like there are many different opnions and ideas depending on where and what your idea of a cat dog is. I think i will just keep back one hound for coon hunting and push the rest towards cats, got one dog who is fast as heck but dont use his nose like he could, one who is pretty cold nosed but young and dumb, so it will be a long road ahead but you gotta start some where and i have plans for some new recruits in the not to distant future, and will hopefully settle on what seems to be working the best and just hunt the heck out of them.But in the meanwhile.
.......................................................................................Here is what i need if i got every body feeling sorry for me at this point. A super cold nosed hound who can wind like a champ,drifts a track quickly, runs, hard and fast like a coyote hound, never slick tree's,never trashes,always pick's up losses or hell never even makes one, can locate 100% every time out never, quits and comes in but puts cats up each track you dump it on,Has a super loud bawl mouth, chops 100+ barks a min on the tree after a good change over, cant be ill or mean in any way,must be a easy keeper,quiet in the yard,needs to be able to rig like a champ and broke to road in front of my truck and four wheeler or with horses handles like a border collie. If anyone has a free hound like that pm me and i'll give you my address oh yeah it would be nice if it came with a free garmin system with an extra collar or 2