Hounds to hunt Cougars May Be Back!
Hounds to hunt Cougars May Be Back!
Anybody read about The Oregon Senate Bill 474 yet. It Has proposed to hunt cougars with dogs for the last three months of the season. I hope this passes. I will be keeping my fingers crossed. Just thought i should let everybody know.
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Re: Hounds to hunt Cougars May Be Back!
SUMMARY
The following summary is not prepared by the sponsors of the
measure and is not a part of the body thereof subject to
consideration by the Legislative Assembly. It is an editor's
brief statement of the essential features of the measure as
introduced.
Allows use of dog to hunt cougars during final three months of
general cougar hunting season if State Fish and Wildlife
Commission determines that harvest quota for particular hunt zone
might not be met.
A BILL FOR AN ACT
Relating to cougars; amending ORS 498.164; and providing for
criminal sentence reduction that requires approval by a
two-thirds majority.
Be It Enacted by the People of the State of Oregon:
SECTION 1. ORS 498.164 is amended to read:
498.164. (1) Except as provided in subsections (2) to
{ - (4) - } { + (5) + } of this section, a person may not use
bait to attract or take black bears or use one or more dogs to
hunt or pursue black bears or cougars.
(2) Nothing in subsection (1) of this section prohibits the use
of bait or one or more dogs by employees or agents of county,
state or federal agencies while acting in their official
capacities.
(3)(a) As allowed by subsection (2) of this section, the State
Department of Fish and Wildlife is authorized to appoint persons
to act as agents for the department for the purpose of using one
or more dogs to hunt or pursue black bears or cougars. Such hunt
or pursuit must be in compliance with any black bear management
plan and any cougar management plan adopted by rule by the State
Fish and Wildlife Commission. An agent acts on the department's
behalf and, subject to the department's direction and control,
implements specific management programs of the department. An
agent may not engage in any other hunting or pursuit while acting
on the department's behalf.
(b) The department shall:
(A) Make the appointment in written form; and
(B) Ensure that the written appointment is available to the
public for review at the main office of the department in Salem.
(c) Upon appointment of an agent by the department, the
department shall fix the compensation of the agent and prescribe
the duties of the agent. The authority of the agent to act shall
be limited to the terms set forth in the written appointment
under paragraph (b) of this subsection.
(d) The commission shall adopt by rule a process and criteria
for selecting and training persons to act as agents pursuant to
paragraph (a) of this subsection. The process and criteria shall
include, but are not limited to, the qualifications and training
for agents and are to cover any guidelines, policies or codes of
conduct of the department regarding firearms, first aid,
all-terrain vehicles and snowmobiles and the use of alcohol or
drugs. The department may also require fingerprints as specified
in ORS 496.121 for the purpose of requesting state or nationwide
criminal records checks.
(4) Nothing in subsection (1) of this section prohibits the use
of bait or dogs by persons for the taking of black bears or
cougars in accordance with the provisions of ORS 498.012 relating
to taking wildlife that is causing damage.
{ + (5) If the State Fish and Wildlife Commission determines
that the harvest quota might not be met in a particular hunt zone
during the general cougar season, the commission may allow a
person who holds the appropriate licenses, tag and permits to
hunt or pursue cougars with a dog in a particular hunt zone
during the final three months of the general cougar season until
the harvest quota for that particular hunt zone for the season
has been met. + }
{ - (5) - } { + (6) + } Any person who violates subsection
(1) of this section commits a Class A misdemeanor and, upon
conviction, shall in addition to appropriate criminal penalties
have his or her privilege to apply for any hunting license
suspended for a period of five years for a first offense and
permanently suspended for any subsequent offense.
{ - (6) - } { + (7) + } For the purposes of this section,
'bait' means any material placed for the purpose of attracting or
attempting to attract bears.
SECTION 2. ORS 498.164, as amended by section 2, chapter 675,
Oregon Laws 2007, is amended to read:
498.164. (1) Except as provided in subsections (2) { - and
(3) - } { + to (4) + } of this section, a person may not use
bait to attract or take black bears or use one or more dogs to
hunt or pursue black bears or cougars.
(2) Nothing in subsection (1) of this section prohibits the use
of bait or one or more dogs by employees or agents of county,
state or federal agencies while acting in their official
capacities.
(3) Nothing in subsection (1) of this section prohibits the use
of bait or dogs by persons for the taking of black bears or
cougars in accordance with the provisions of ORS 498.012 relating
to taking wildlife that is causing damage.
{ + (4) If the State Fish and Wildlife Commission determines
that the harvest quota might not be met in a particular hunt zone
during the general cougar season, the commission may allow a
person who holds the appropriate licenses, tag and permits to
hunt or pursue cougars with a dog in a particular hunt zone
during the final three months of the general cougar season until
the harvest quota for that particular hunt zone for the season
has been met. + }
{ - (4) - } { + (5) + } Any person who violates subsection
(1) of this section commits a Class A misdemeanor and, upon
conviction, shall in addition to appropriate criminal penalties
have his or her privilege to apply for any hunting license
suspended for a period of five years for a first offense and
permanently suspended for any subsequent offense.
{ - (5) - } { + (6) + } For the purposes of this section,
'bait' means any material placed for the purpose of attracting or
attempting to attract bears.
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The following summary is not prepared by the sponsors of the
measure and is not a part of the body thereof subject to
consideration by the Legislative Assembly. It is an editor's
brief statement of the essential features of the measure as
introduced.
Allows use of dog to hunt cougars during final three months of
general cougar hunting season if State Fish and Wildlife
Commission determines that harvest quota for particular hunt zone
might not be met.
A BILL FOR AN ACT
Relating to cougars; amending ORS 498.164; and providing for
criminal sentence reduction that requires approval by a
two-thirds majority.
Be It Enacted by the People of the State of Oregon:
SECTION 1. ORS 498.164 is amended to read:
498.164. (1) Except as provided in subsections (2) to
{ - (4) - } { + (5) + } of this section, a person may not use
bait to attract or take black bears or use one or more dogs to
hunt or pursue black bears or cougars.
(2) Nothing in subsection (1) of this section prohibits the use
of bait or one or more dogs by employees or agents of county,
state or federal agencies while acting in their official
capacities.
(3)(a) As allowed by subsection (2) of this section, the State
Department of Fish and Wildlife is authorized to appoint persons
to act as agents for the department for the purpose of using one
or more dogs to hunt or pursue black bears or cougars. Such hunt
or pursuit must be in compliance with any black bear management
plan and any cougar management plan adopted by rule by the State
Fish and Wildlife Commission. An agent acts on the department's
behalf and, subject to the department's direction and control,
implements specific management programs of the department. An
agent may not engage in any other hunting or pursuit while acting
on the department's behalf.
(b) The department shall:
(A) Make the appointment in written form; and
(B) Ensure that the written appointment is available to the
public for review at the main office of the department in Salem.
(c) Upon appointment of an agent by the department, the
department shall fix the compensation of the agent and prescribe
the duties of the agent. The authority of the agent to act shall
be limited to the terms set forth in the written appointment
under paragraph (b) of this subsection.
(d) The commission shall adopt by rule a process and criteria
for selecting and training persons to act as agents pursuant to
paragraph (a) of this subsection. The process and criteria shall
include, but are not limited to, the qualifications and training
for agents and are to cover any guidelines, policies or codes of
conduct of the department regarding firearms, first aid,
all-terrain vehicles and snowmobiles and the use of alcohol or
drugs. The department may also require fingerprints as specified
in ORS 496.121 for the purpose of requesting state or nationwide
criminal records checks.
(4) Nothing in subsection (1) of this section prohibits the use
of bait or dogs by persons for the taking of black bears or
cougars in accordance with the provisions of ORS 498.012 relating
to taking wildlife that is causing damage.
{ + (5) If the State Fish and Wildlife Commission determines
that the harvest quota might not be met in a particular hunt zone
during the general cougar season, the commission may allow a
person who holds the appropriate licenses, tag and permits to
hunt or pursue cougars with a dog in a particular hunt zone
during the final three months of the general cougar season until
the harvest quota for that particular hunt zone for the season
has been met. + }
{ - (5) - } { + (6) + } Any person who violates subsection
(1) of this section commits a Class A misdemeanor and, upon
conviction, shall in addition to appropriate criminal penalties
have his or her privilege to apply for any hunting license
suspended for a period of five years for a first offense and
permanently suspended for any subsequent offense.
{ - (6) - } { + (7) + } For the purposes of this section,
'bait' means any material placed for the purpose of attracting or
attempting to attract bears.
SECTION 2. ORS 498.164, as amended by section 2, chapter 675,
Oregon Laws 2007, is amended to read:
498.164. (1) Except as provided in subsections (2) { - and
(3) - } { + to (4) + } of this section, a person may not use
bait to attract or take black bears or use one or more dogs to
hunt or pursue black bears or cougars.
(2) Nothing in subsection (1) of this section prohibits the use
of bait or one or more dogs by employees or agents of county,
state or federal agencies while acting in their official
capacities.
(3) Nothing in subsection (1) of this section prohibits the use
of bait or dogs by persons for the taking of black bears or
cougars in accordance with the provisions of ORS 498.012 relating
to taking wildlife that is causing damage.
{ + (4) If the State Fish and Wildlife Commission determines
that the harvest quota might not be met in a particular hunt zone
during the general cougar season, the commission may allow a
person who holds the appropriate licenses, tag and permits to
hunt or pursue cougars with a dog in a particular hunt zone
during the final three months of the general cougar season until
the harvest quota for that particular hunt zone for the season
has been met. + }
{ - (4) - } { + (5) + } Any person who violates subsection
(1) of this section commits a Class A misdemeanor and, upon
conviction, shall in addition to appropriate criminal penalties
have his or her privilege to apply for any hunting license
suspended for a period of five years for a first offense and
permanently suspended for any subsequent offense.
{ - (5) - } { + (6) + } For the purposes of this section,
'bait' means any material placed for the purpose of attracting or
attempting to attract bears.
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Re: Hounds to hunt Cougars May Be Back!
It will never pass, because the Governer will veto it even if it makes it though. Remeber this is the same Gov. that was in office when Ballot # 18 outlawed the use of dogs. We stood a chance if we could have got Dudly elected, but we didn't. Thats why it is so important to vote and try to vote out these liberals
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Re: Hounds to hunt Cougars May Be Back!
The bill sucks anyway. I'm for houndsmen not agents of the state. I think its a step sideways.
Re: Hounds to hunt Cougars May Be Back!
So am i understanding this bill wrong? Cause what i understand is that it will be open to public houndsmen for the last three months of the season depending on the quota?
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Re: Hounds to hunt Cougars May Be Back!
Maybe I'm reading it wrong. Don't you have to apply to become an agent of the state?
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Re: Hounds to hunt Cougars May Be Back!
time to pay attention and vote all liberals out of office..no reason to re hash old news....this is way out dated and what is on the table is now more important...i'm involved at the state level and have been for the last two years to engage all of our elected officials and so should you....send the people who work for us an e-mail explaining your dissatisfaction over the handling of our resources by odfw...start with your home district representative....any person not sure who that is or how to go about this can send me a pm and i will gladly walk you thru this process...i have bent the ears off our state representatives and they do hear me and they will also hear you as well....now is the time to act...odfw needs us more now than ever and the state is flat broke...the squeaky wheel will get the grease....
REMEMBER TO INCLUDE THIS DIRECT POINT.....WE BEING YOU AND ME ARE A "MANAGEMENT TOOL" FOR ODFW.....NO ANDS IFS BUTS OR MAYBE....WE ARE THE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM.
REMEMBER WHEN DOING SO BE POLITE AND DIRECT TO THE POINT AND THANK THEM FOR LISTENING
REMEMBER TO INCLUDE THIS DIRECT POINT.....WE BEING YOU AND ME ARE A "MANAGEMENT TOOL" FOR ODFW.....NO ANDS IFS BUTS OR MAYBE....WE ARE THE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM.
REMEMBER WHEN DOING SO BE POLITE AND DIRECT TO THE POINT AND THANK THEM FOR LISTENING
Re: Hounds to hunt Cougars May Be Back!
Any updates here?
