Ever saw this

[al baldwin]

Have a very well built 40lb. half trig, half treeing walker turns two in may. She strikes from the rig, trails most any older scent others can work, opens some on the old stuff, gamey on any kill. The first couple cat trees she was on with me, she treed like an old dog, did not take long to reach those trees . Here is the problem, since then she works hard on the trail, but once treed she comes on a straight line back to me. Take her back to the tree, encourage her and she will tree. She does not back track off, have watched on the garmin. Dogs can run circles, before treeing she comes pretty much strait back to where the track began. She also does the same, if the track blows up. Recently pack trailed track about 1.5 mile, stormy, dogs hit road track ended. Drove about 12 mile around to reach pack, she turned and went back to where we had started, had traveled about five mile on the road I had driven, looking for me. This has Tom and I, scratching heads, both thought I had really luck into a nice hound, with those first two trees. Any suggestions? Do not believe shocking will help, believe it would only add to the problem. Thanks Al

[merlo_105]

Al, I'll do you a favor how much you want for her I dont want you to be botherd by a dog like this... I'll come pick her up this weekend. I would send her on a track all by her self. With the hopes she doesnt tree but has a long drawn out race. I would run her with young dogs with the same hope. Then hunt her on coon or cat and tie her back at the tree and knock it out to the other dogs. Do that a few times and Im sure she is not gonna wanna bother leaving. This is if you have the time to do this. If not I would be sure she is collar conditioned and understands what the collar stands for. And as soon as she leaves the tree I would nik her on a level best suited for her.... Make her turn around

[al baldwin]

Merlo thanks for reply, problem is I am older & slow, in this brush it takes awhile for me to reach a tree. If I was at the tree & she tried to leave , would buzz her & she would come back. But once I get her back to tree she stays, Tom took her into a tree Saturday, where there had been some doubt, she stayed and treed some. She shows independence on trail and for sure is opening some on track on those older trails. First got her she would run every deer in the brush, she was about ten months old & had been hunted some. Friend I bought her from had seen her tree on coon & trainers, he only owned her a short time. She is a very sensitive female & could be easily damaged by a rough hand. I like a lot about her, but if can/t get her to understand needs to stay at a tree, you may be able to buy her. Did not intend to sell her, never if can get this resolved. Friend said she and another dog had a ground catch and she did well. Al

[easttntrapper]

This also worked for me on a dog that wouldnt stay at the tree. I would catch mine usually 100-150 yards from tree. I tied him there and knocked the coon out to the other dogs. Just a coondog but dont see why it wouldnt work on a cat dog

[merlo_105]

Sounds like the type of dog I would use a trainer on. And if you dont want the dog playing with coon's and your catching a fair number of the cats your running I would walk it in to the tree and tie it back at the tree knock it out to the other dogs let it see it and praise and pet up the other dogs. Then the second cat I would tie the dog back where it couldnt see what was going on and do the same thing just be a little louder with the praise towards the other dogs knock it out. Probably all it will take. I wouldnt consider this a huge issue unless you dont have the time to put in to it. Just a few little sessions and I think the dog would be cured. Its not a fault its just a problem.

[al baldwin]

Merlo, I don/t use trainers! Hunt too close to ranch houses at times, & just don/t believe in it. Can still recall the whipping I received from my Dad as a youngster, after he warned me to stop letting my yard hounds chase those. Don/t tree a large number of bobs. Coon hunting no longer appeals to me, treed a zillion of those in my youth. But may have to resort to that. Thanks Al

[Tim Pittman]

Al have seen this [ I think, a good deal in some dogs] give me a call, I'm interested to know the particulars to see if they're comparable to some of my whoas.

[catdog360]

Al, Pay close attention to your Garmin. If you see her and Tom's dogs locate and tree and she wonders tap her with the Tri-Tronics. This had worked for me and I would not let her touch a killed cat for a while. This is what I have felt has worked in the past on some.

[david]

does she look for you when there is trouble? Is there something about the other dog(s) (or a particular person or the gun) making her uncomfortable at the tree possibly? That is the first thing I suspect when a young sensitive dog wont stay at the tree. Not always the case, but enough to make me consider it.

[al baldwin]

Thanks David, don/t believe in this case any of those are an issue. Al

[Trueblue]

Maybe you defined the problem in the first sentence of your post. "half Trigg"

[Emily]

I have a redbone that does this. He only does this when there is another dog around to keep the bear treed. He's an older dog that has hunted with me since a pup, and I honestly think he is just excited, and worried about me because I have aged and take too long to get to the tree. What I find works is if I let him know I am on my way, shouting or blowing a whistle as I make progress. He still comes back to me if I get hung up and take too long, but only if there's another dog to take care of business at the tree. I honestly think this dog worries about me. You say you are pretty slow, so do what you can to let him know you are on you're way, not hurt, and just taking your time because your an old fogey. Works for me.

[al baldwin]

Thanks to all for reply. I really believe this is a bred in trait, from some of her ancestors. Not a bad trait if one enjoyed the trailing & had no desired for tree dog. Before tracking equipment her compass & homing instincts at times would have been a real plus. Al

[TomJr]

I have had that with three different dogs. As long as there was another dog at the tree these dogs would come back to greet me then run back to tree... One was a border collie, another one was a black mouthed cur and third was a lab mix, all very smart dogs. I figured they were just a bit too smart for their own good and came back because they knew something was about to happen and got over excited.

To test this hunt her alone and see if she stays treed.

To stop it I would just totally ignore the dog when it comes back, worked for me in all three cases. But might be something else with your dog... every dog is different and without being there in person its hard judge.

[curtj]

al, my best dog that own now, probably the best bobcat dog i,ve ever owned did this when he was young.I thought this was because a cat had got ahold of him when he was six months old. not always, but alot of times he would leave the tree go back to where they started the track, not saying a word. I would get to the tree call his name, tone him then if he would'nt come, just lightly hit the tri tronics. After a time or two he got to where he would no longer leave. Knocking some cats out during season will definately help too. If thats the same dog i'm thinking of it may be related to mine on one side, if thats the case, my brother in law has two that are related on the same side that did the same thing, and that cured them also.