Bobcat dogs

[merlo_105]

There has been a lot of talk about what a Bobcat dog is or what a Bobcat pack is. So what is it? What make's a Bobcat dog a Bobcat dog.

[mark]

Its been beat to death but hell, let the good times roll! Lmao

[pegleg]

It catches enough cats a cat junky feels justified in his addiction. I'd say any dog that actually prefers bobcat is either a cat dog or whish it was. And that's good enough to start with. My very best cat dogs have preferred them from a early age and often just seemed attracted to them. I had a female that was a pretty decent cat dog alone or not and she adopted a house cat. Granted it was a unusual relationship. She would hold it down and lick it for long periods of time and was possessive of it to the point I only let her play with it away from other dogs. Granted most of them wanted to eat it and I was never sure she wouldn't. I don't think numbers of cats caught really make a dog a cat dog or not. Some areas you just don't have the numbers but they still manage to catch a few a week. Then some dogs accidentally tree a cat once in awhile out hunting other game. We sometimes need to step back and look at how the oldtimers did it. You let a dog hunt and it will show you what its made of. Yes there's a lot of work that should be done in the breeding and handling dept but it always comes back to what happens out hunting. I rather a dog convince me its a cat dog then try to convince it that's what it is.

[twist]

I'd like to hear the true story on this also as have read where its been said it will need to be explained what a true cat dog or cat pack really is as most have never witnessed it! Andy

[mike martell]

Why does the credit always go to the bobcat dog?
I had a very good point brought to my attention recently while discussing bobcat hounds and performance. [Quote "You ever notice the guy who doesn't own a top notch bobcat hound that understands the game and works real hard at it, manages to continue to tree bobcats?"]

This topic hasn't been beat to death.

How much of a role does the man behind the hounds play in the ultimate success of a bobcat dog or bobcat pack?

[mark]

Mike, your memory is fading ol buddy! Lol go back through some old topics on here and you will find this same discussion a couple times. At least

A cat dog/dogs will find you catching yourself rooting for the cat most of the time.

[mike martell]

Mark

I'm only here when my dogs are resting...As for me, I lost it long ago...Got my mutts in pretty good shape...Think I will abandon this hi tech puter stuff where a guy can go back in the archives and call bull and load up and do a road trip and see how catching something, anything really works out, right now I need life zervers for the dogs because they ain't swim dogs....Maybe then I can do something unprecedented and repeated over and over on BGH and that's start a dementia stages of old hounddoggers thread!

[twist]

I agree this topic has been beat to death but have read from time to time that a lot of us( need to know the real definition of a cat dog.) But has never been written. Would just like to hear it. Andy

[mark]

You have to read between the lines Andy it is all written down in here in some form throughout the years. I still dont own one myself but i am getting it narrowed down to where if i live another 237 years i will have me one im sure!

[1bludawg]

Does it really matter what someone else's definition of a cat dog is?Its probably a little different for each of us .The only thing we might agree on is that they have to tree cats.MY dogs have to meet MY expectations to stay here ! As i've said in other posts it doesn't matter how good your dogs are some people will not like them.All that matters is that you do!

[merlo_105]

No doubt this has been pounded out. I started this for the reason which Andy is thinking. I have no idea what a good dog is hell I have a few dogs that don't tree, so that's the squirts guess they'll never be good dogs.

[merlo_105]

Most of us understand that 1bludawg, Some others have there thoughts so just wanted to hear what they were.

[al baldwin]

It seems the real cat dog or pack of dogs is one that never over runs a cat track, so, I doubt if they exist. However, if one catches enough to please the owner, while running cat only, to me, that is a cat dog. The number of cat caught depends on the type cats one runs, cat population, terrain, time hunter has to hunt & other factors in my opinion. Al

[mark]

No doubt this has been pounded out. I started this for the reason which Andy is thinking. I have no idea what a good dog is hell I have a few dogs that don't tree, so that's the squirts guess they'll never be good dogs.

merlo_105
Bawl Mouth

Wow... to Cat hunters
PostSat Apr 13, 2013 2:15 pm
Wowww. So I been sitting here reading alot of these topics about what breeds you need and what kind of dogs you need to catch Bobcats... I find it funny. Im young to the hounds didnt grow up hunting with hounds always had Bird dogs, Pointers and Setters. Well as soon as I started getting into Hounds all I heard was you need Tree'ing Walkers or Running dogs or a cross. Well I had to be the different One and I got me a Redbone out of some Alright coon dog lines nothing to special... Well the guy I hunt with has all Walkers or running dog cross. So most you guys know what I had to listen to Well being a trainer and having bird dogs my whole life I new how to work with a dog and go the right way about it. Well I hear alot about dogs not being good enough, I believe hound people over think everything instead of acting upon it or fixing it or aiding it. Well I worked the Redbone pup as I would any other dog, Bird dogs dont play follow the leader so I didnt feel a hound should have to learn that way figured I can teach more then a pup trainer could. Well I worked this dog everday and noticed faults at a young age well we fixed them faults while he was young. Got him doing everything very well at a young age worked him till I felt he was ready to be worked on the real thing. So after all the training and time in the woods we took him out Buddy's dog Riggs a cat so we dumped my Redbone out on his first very own Cat we left all the dogs in the truck Well as soon as the Redbone came out the box he was gone he had the cat jumped almost right away short story is he caught the cat with a little help from us. Well after that I got me a Bluetick female from Nora Constance (Cook) and what a fantastic dog she is... I went about the same way with training her as I did the Redbone. I got the same outcome a real fine hound.. I moved to West Virginia and brought the Bluetick with me she was only 8 months old when I got there. Well hunted her every chance I had and caught about 18 cats there with a dog under a year old. Before i left I picked up two more Blueticks one was a fantastic coon dog the other I was iffy about. Well worked them as singles and as soon as I felt they could handle it I took all three Blue girls out and had a great time ended my season with 25 cats. People around that area dont believe Bobcats can be caught well they can. So I moved back to the PNW with three Blueticks that have caught Cats on the east coast... The big thing I hear is you need speed Yes I will agree no doubt speed does help. The blue lady I got from Nora is out of this world fast only about 35-40 pounds she runs right with and right pass all the running dogs she has been around 95 percent of the time she is leading... Well one of the Blue dogs that came from WV I was worried about not being fast enough and slowing down the rest of the dogs this is prior to hunting and training her. How much speed does a dog need? I looked at it as You take a track athlete and run against him on a open track he is gonna put a whoopen on you well the track star would be the walker. And the average guy me would be the bluetick. Well now you get us off the flat ground and put us in The woods of the PNW guess what we are gonna be neck and neck what Im saying is I doubted that a super fast dog could run at its full potential so I wanted dogs with good speed didnt have to run like a cheetah. Everyone I have put my dogs with they run neck and neck in the nasty timber, yes you match what breed and what kind works in your area. Well I have three Blueticks one Redbone and had a Walker I had to sell due to being gun shy but before that the walker was an Ace dog... What Im saying is how can I be so lucky to get 5 really good dogs and not have to cut one or two or even three short... All big faults are in the trainer yes there are dogs that just plane dont hunt. But it doesnt take a rocket man to build a great bobcat dog... I think hounds men rather hunt and toss in pups with dogs rather then working them the right way... Look at Bird dogs and there trainer they are worked with everday and in a good manor and every single dog makes a awesome hunting dog yes some become great and make trial dogs... Of coarse breeding helps... But I just built a pack off four hounds and none were from solid Cat dogs.... What Im trying to say is look at the facts a dog is only as good as you let it be. Speed is great but in the PNW I dont believe they get to use there full potential so whats the need?... I know alot of guys are gonna be scratching there head... And alot of guys are gonna doubt it and thats great cause they are gonna be pushing for better bloodlines to make a better dogs... Whick inturn helps get rid of trainer error. And Nora if you read this Thanks for that Bluetick She is my baby... lol

Wow!

[merlo_105]

Well Mark good thing I learned a little since then. I still have two of them Blue ticks no Red bone. One July, 4 running cross dog's. I was told a long time ago from a successful hunter cats are easy to catch, get yourself a start dog a trail dog and a tree dog. And you'll see Cat. That's all I have done and I'm happy with the dog's I have. None are super dog's. I use my other dog's to train the dog's where I use to do more I do less. But also I still single them out when needed and work out bug's. My chore at hand will be getting this July treeing and from what I can see now ain't going to be tough. Thank's to her breeding. I don't worry about if one dog can catch a cat on it's own anymore I'm more into if each one can contribute somewhere to make a Cat clime.