Bobcat dogs

[mark]

Hmmmmm you are starting sound like someone else i know?????? Lol....... You'll do fine pilgrim just fine!

[dwalton]

As David wrote in his book about the level of bobcat hunters I feel there is a level of bobcat dogs. What I expect out of a dog and willing to breed that dog means only something to me. Some people are totally happy catch a coon ,bear, lion or bobcat every so often some are no. If you like it and it's works for you hunt it. Dewey

[david]

Mike, your memory is fading ol buddy! Lol go back through some old topics on here and you will find this same discussion a couple times. At least.

I guess I am going to have to defend the repetitive nature of this board. Only because of the repetitive nature of myself.

I don't remember the year I started posting but it was before I started driving truck and that is ten or twelve years. When ever I post something and then read it I realize le I have made the same post before and I am not sure how many times.

I know this drives some people crazy. And they are gone for the most part. But part of the reason for the repetition is we keep getting new crops of Learners. The cultures that have story tellers tell the same stories year after year. The stories instruct and teach values.

There are guys on here now starting families that were 15 when we started sharing knowledge on here. And they weren't here.

We repeat the foundational knowledge over and over.

And once in awhile we get something I can't remember ever reading, like:

A cat dog/dogs will find you catching yourself rooting for the cat most of the time.

And some one put words on what I have felt but could never quite express, when it was time for me to get rid of a dog and start over: when she became a cat dog.

As much as I enjoy a cat dog, I enjoy a future cat dog more.

And maybe that is why I like this board and don't mind the repetition:
future cat hunters.

[Unreal_tk]

No such thing as the perfect dog. There are the hunters who make dogs. What makes success is two things, time and money. If a man has just enough money and unlimited time, he will have better dogs. Dogs get better with experience, and just because a dog doesn't have such and such in its breeding doesn't mean it can't learn to do it by seeing other dogs do it successfully, sometimes they don't but it can happen.

[david]

No such thing as the perfect dog. There are the hunters who make dogs. What makes success is two things, time and money. If a man has just enough money and unlimited time, he will have better dogs. Dogs get better with experience...

Truer words have not been spoken, because how do you get truer than 100%.

The only ingredient I would add to your time and money, is bobcats. If you don't have a good supply of them and conditions and laws that allow you to use that time and money on them, no matter how much time and money you have, you cannot make a bobcat dog. But again you are right because you can use that time and money to move to the cats.

Great wisdom TK

[Tanner Peyton]

I sure hope a lot more then: time money and bobcats go into making a legit dog. I think I'll be disappointed and board if that's all it takes.

[dwalton]

It takes a good dog to make a bobcat dog. Hard hunting and the knowledge of bobcats makes you a bobcat hunter. You can not make a silk purse out of a sows ear. Just treeing a few bobcats does not make you or your dog a bobcat dog and bobcat hunter. It takes time and knowledge of your dogs and of the bobcats. For me a bobcat hunter is just that a bobcat hunter. You have coon hunters, bear hunters, lion hunters, fox hunters and people that don't care what their dogs run ,running it all. Each to their own. Realize bobcat hunters think down a very narrow tunnel only looking for bobcats. Just my opinion. Each to their own. Dewey

[scrubrunner]

If a game warden try's to ticket me for for hunting bobcat out of season I'm going to tell him "you can't write me that ticket, Dewey says that I ain't a bobcat hunter!
Dewey, you may be summoned to Fla. to testify.

[leifalweapon]

Mike, your memory is fading ol buddy! Lol go back through some old topics on here and you will find this same discussion a couple times. At least.

I guess I am going to have to defend the repetitive nature of this board. Only because of the repetitive nature of myself.

I don't remember the year I started posting but it was before I started driving truck and that is ten or twelve years. When ever I post something and then read it I realize le I have made the same post before and I am not sure how many times.

I know this drives some people crazy. And they are gone for the most part. But part of the reason for the repetition is we keep getting new crops of Learners. The cultures that have story tellers tell the same stories year after year. The stories instruct and teach values.

There are guys on here now starting families that were 15 when we started sharing knowledge on here. And they weren't here.

We repeat the foundational knowledge over and over.

And once in awhile we get something I can't remember ever reading, like:

A cat dog/dogs will find you catching yourself rooting for the cat most of the time.

And some one put words on what I have felt but could never quite express, when it was time for me to get rid of a dog and start over: when she became a cat dog.

As much as I enjoy a cat dog, I enjoy a future cat dog more.

And maybe that is why I like this board and don't mind the repetition:
future cat hunters.

Excellent post, it takes us new guys a lot of repetition to understand many concepts that seasoned houndsmen find elementary, there can be more than one valid point of view and every now and then a new one comes along that encompasses them all. What I love the most about hounds and hunting is the complexity of it all and endless variables and possibility. Even searching old topics leaves a lot of questions for us newer houndsmen, we don't know what we don't know, and the reason some of these topics come up repeatedly is because some never find an answer that completely satisfies them. I really appreciate that old post from mark, it relieves me of some of the stressful Russian roulette feeling I get when buying new pups as I have been lately


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[al baldwin]

There certainly are different levels of bobcat dogs, not everyone who enjoys hunting bobcat with dogs has the same time, money, cat population, & permission to good hunting areas. I do not believe one has to make his life/s mission to be the best known bobcat hunter, to be considered a bobcat hunter. Lots of us have long been envious of hunters who found ways to earn a living, while not being tied to a full time job. Anyone who keeps 8 to 10 bobcat dogs that never bark off track & catch 99% of the cats jumped is certainly in a small elite group. If one has dogs that catch enough cats to keep hunting enjoyable, and 99% of the time runs cat only, in my opinion that person is a knowledge cat hunter & has bobcat dogs. Al

[mike martell]

Excellent post, it takes us new guys a lot of repetition to understand many concepts that seasoned houndsmen find elementary

Good Judgement comes for experience, and experience ----Well, that comes from poor judgement! You can read thousands of post on hundreds of threads, nothing takes the place of hands on experience gained by repeatedly doing it wrong, trying or experimenting! This over time is what led seasoned houndsmen to find things to be "elementary". Those that find things to be elementary? Didn't learn it here!

[dwalton]

scubrunner: That would be great a free trip what more could a guy ask for that wants to hunt new country. Good hunting remember everything I post is just my opinion. You agree or disagree I am ok either way. Dewey

[scrubrunner]

Just poking at ya Dewey. I thought it was funny.

[rockytrails]

Excellent post, it takes us new guys a lot of repetition to understand many concepts that seasoned houndsmen find elementary

Good Judgement comes for experience, and experience ----Well, that comes from poor judgement! You can read thousands of post on hundreds of threads, nothing takes the place of hands on experience gained by repeatedly doing it wrong, trying or experimenting! This over time is what led seasoned houndsmen to find things to be "elementary". Those that find things to be elementary? Didn't learn it here!

Very well stated, never thought of poor judgement being experience. Is true. What happens with "experience gained by repeatedly doing " is it becomes subconscious. That is where."reactions" come from. Also where the old saying." He forgot more than I'll ever know" comes from. He forgot it because it is ingrained, no longer has to think, just react.

[rockytrails]

The above is true for the dog and hunter.